Jay Elle

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  I hope Armageddon doesn't come before the new Star Wars movie comes out

  by Zoos in

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  ever had this thought about an upcoming movie?.

  and then i would feel guilty for putting my entertainment desires ahead of god's kingdom.. .

  shameless!.

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  Jay Elle

  I selfishly hoped I would get to be 21 and legal in this system.  It worked!
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  WOW gotta check out this Charles Sinutko talk "Is It Proper to have doubts?"

  by BU2B in

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  2. friends

  so manipulaitve.

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  http://www.printcentralandsigns.com/jwtalks/covisits/sinutko%20charles%20-%20is%20it%20proper%20to%20have%20doubts.mp3.

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  Jay Elle

  Yes Sinutko was the same overseer to give the, "stay alive till 75 talk"  I talk I can no longer find online...grrrr.  Anyway he sang professionally and I belive there was an article written about him.  I think he is no longer alive .....he finished the circuit work and went to live in CA.  

  What a kook.
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  contemptus saeculi

  by C.O.B.E.Beef in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  several months ago we had the visit of our c.o.

  and his thursday night talked included rants covering several topics, with an especially long winded diatribe against "higher education".

  he is pretty good speaker , and his choice of illustrations seemed to win an emotional response from the audience that ive never seen with regard to that subject.. he began the discussion with how concerned the governing body was with the decision some parents have made to send their kids to college.

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  Jay Elle

  I do think depending where you live the anti college rule will fall on deaf ears.  Many of our parents are tired of living as if the end is coming tomorrow ....since it never did. We don't want to live that way anymore.  Our kids will be prepared.

  maybe poorer congregations that could not afford college for their kids will take a righteous stand...since why not? 

  Otherwise I hear and see most kids becoming college bound.
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  Recorded argument with elders trying to DF someone

  by Jay Elle in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this video may have been posted here before but it is new to me.

  the lingo seems very very famillar with the bullying that the elders give us all.

  they want their pound of flesh...but call it loving and theocratic.

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  Jay Elle

  I just opened it and it worked fine.  I don't know why there would be a defamation claim since I don't remember any clear faces or names?

  what is the story behind the removal?  Was it removed from  this site? It is still on you tube.  

  Sorry for my confusion. :-)
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  Recorded argument with elders trying to DF someone

  by Jay Elle in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this video may have been posted here before but it is new to me.

  the lingo seems very very famillar with the bullying that the elders give us all.

  they want their pound of flesh...but call it loving and theocratic.

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  Jay Elle

  This video may have been posted here before but it is new to me.  The lingo seems very very famillar with the bullying that the elders give us all.  They want their pound of flesh...but call it loving and theocratic.  

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkWSmO9saoc

  
  

  
  
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  2015 Regional Convention Theme - unofficial-

  by WatchTower87 in

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  2. beliefs

  news about 2015 regional convention theme?.

  list of my preview:.

  - the end is at hand.

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  Jay Elle

  Theme:  Shut up, sit down, be quiet you morons.
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  How to reply to- "just wait on Jehovah".

  by runForever in

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  2. friends

  all you have to say is "who says jehovah is not using me right now?

  " something to that effect.. if they say you are just a low-life nobody just point out amos nipper of figs.

  and if they say "do you think you're a prophet?

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  I alway say... if Jehovah could make an ass speak for him then he can be using me too 

  also about the pedos in the news....I have found saying, "it would not be in the news if Jehovah didn't want it there."
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  No longer an MS! Hooray...finally!

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  2. friends

  well, it's finally happened!.

  im no longer an ms.. as many would know from our chats via this forum, i've seen it coming for a while....and while the way it was done stinks, i'm really happy to finally be free!.

  (would love to share more details...i will do in time...or perhaps a pm would be best).

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  Jay Elle

  The other major reason for not holding a title is to not share in the sins of the old men!  I was always told to flee when you catch site of disgusting things.  Yay....run!  
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  Sam Herd to speak at Orangeburg, SC assemblies Jan. 17-18

  by sir82 in

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  2. friends

  i just heard a fairly reliable rumor that sam herd will be the "guest bethel speaker" at the circuit assemblies at the orangeburg sc assembly hall on january 17-18. .

  orangeburg is about halfway between columbia & charleston, assembly hall is right off i-26.. just in case any of y'all want to be enlightened.

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  Jay Elle

  Interesting.  I wonder on the long term value of the GB making a rule that everyone follows for a week or not at all.   What lasting undermining effects does it have on the individuals that shrugs it off.  To be able to shrug it off in the first place the JW has to toss the info and the GB member who gave it ....even if only slightly.  It chips away at blind faith.
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  Why So Many Young People Are Leaving The Watchtower

  by Jeremy C in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have been giving a lot of thought to the young people who are leaving the watchtower organization in recent years.

  last night, i was reading the thread posted by jwfacts a while back in which he provided some statistics and graphs showing the rapidly declining growth in the watchtower.

  one factor that was discussed at length was the high number of young people who do not stay in the organization.

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  Jay Elle

  My teen daughter has flatly refused to go to anymore meetings.  She felt this way even before it was obvious to me I was in a cult.  She would not leave the car when the memorial took place.  She dug in and said , "This is your crazy religion that makes you scared of life, not mine."

  She said the youth of today will not tolerate anti-gay, misogyny, or any hateful disfellowshipping.  Never mind a Bible written for white men.  She was very clear that her generation was informed and will look at all the evidence.  She sent her Dad JWfacts.  She told him if he makes her go to the hall she will corrupt the kids intentionally with these facts.  Also she said that she will not discuss JW literature until he looks at the entire site of JW facts since he is bullied by his leaders to stay ignorant under penalty.  She has agreed to no such fear of research.

  she told our family therapist in front of her Dad that she will not have her head counted in attendance towards such a hateful group of people that dehumanizes others....EVER.

  She is part of a group at school that reviews organizations that advocate hate.  She used Sam Herds talk on womens small brains as a speaking point.  When she told her Dad about it and sent him the talk he was upset.  She invited him to be interviewed in defense  of Sam Herd.  He was not going to sink with that ship.